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October 23, 2017

Trump again reveals that he’s a cruel pathologic liar

Previous editions here.

Tuesday, Oct. 31, 2017
Today’s Trump Tweets:
 More proof that All I Ever Wanted to 
 by John Gartner, PhD, and Rachel Montgomery is right.

In his most recent Tweet he says he has just ordered
to step up Extreme Vetting. He already said he did this.

It may be worth subscribing to both the NY Times, and the Washington Post, for stories like this in the Post today:


For a president who revels in chaos — and in orchestrating it himself — Monday brought a political storm that Trump could not control. White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, along with lawyers Ty Cobb, John Dowd and Jay Sekulow, advised Trump to be cautious with his public responses, but they were a private sounding board for his grievances, advisers said.

“This has not been a cause of great agita or angst or activity at the White House,” said Cobb, the White House lawyer overseeing Russia matters. He added that Trump is “spending all of his time on presidential work.”

But Trump’s anger Monday was visible to those who interacted with him, and the mood in the corridors of the White House was one of weariness and fear of the unknown. As the president groused upstairs, many staffers — some of whom have hired lawyers to help them navigate Mueller’s investigation — privately speculated about where the special counsel might turn next.

“The walls are closing in,” said one senior Republican in close contact with top staffers who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly. “Everyone is freaking out.”

Trump is also increasingly agitated by the expansion of Mueller’s probe into financial issues beyond the 2016 campaign and about the potential damage to him and his family.

This portrait of Trump and his White House on a day of crisis is based on interviews with 20 senior administration officials, Trump friends and key outside allies, many of whom insisted on anonymity to discuss sensitive internal matters.

and this

Watching the developments unfold on the large television screens installed in his private residence, Trump was “seething,” according to a Republican close to the White House. … As the morning carried on … Trump grew increasingly frustrated as he viewed cable news coverage of his onetime campaign chairman arriving at the FBI field office in downtown Washington, believing his former aides’ roles were being inflated.
Also, CNN reports that George Papadopoulos’s cooperation has surprised the White House and is “stirring even more unease among Trump’s allies.” Which gives the lie to all the bravado we’re seeing.

* TRUMP FRETS THAT MUELLER IS LOOKING AT HIS BUSINESS DEALINGS: The Associated Press adds more on Trump’s state of mind:
Trump has become increasingly concerned that the Mueller probe could be moving beyond Russia to an investigation into his personal dealings, two people familiar with the president’s thinking said. … The president publicly mused in a July interview that he might look to fire the special counsel if Mueller began looking into his business dealings, a possibility that has weighed on him in recent weeks, according to two people who have spoken to him but were not authorized to discuss private conversations.
You’d think Republicans might want to do something about this before it’s too late. But you would be wrong….

More from Kelly’s interview with Laura Ingraham

The general also displayed a saturnine wit (at least I think he was kidding; it was hard to tell) when he joined Ingraham in lamenting the removal of statues celebrating Robert E. Lee and even, in one case, George Washington.

Related in Arts and Culture

“We can get some cult hero who really was the great one,” Kelly suggested concerning a replacement for the broken American idols. “Andy Warhol or something like that.”

Kelly, who apparently is not a fan of the Campbell soup can paintings, said this without the hint of a smile.

Monday, Oct. 30, 2017

So many quotes, so little space:

When asked about a photograph showing Papadopoulos at a meeting with Trump and Jeff Sessions, who then was an adviser and now is the attorney general, Sanders again claimed it was no big deal because “the president has thousands of photographs with millions of people.” Sarah Huckabee Sanders

1) You must have my smash hit of a Broadway show confused with your presidency-- which IS a total bomb and WILL indeed close early. NOT SAD 


This article was written before Trump Tweeted out the above: Manafort Indictment Pushes Mentally Ill Trump Into Deranged Rant About Obama And The DNC - PoliticUSA

What could go wrong with Trump handling the U.S. reaction
 and response to such a test while he is in Asia, 
in denial and projection mode in response to
 the Mueller indictments? My hunch is that Kim is 
savoring the prospect of initiating his most flamboyant,
 in not his biggest, test to date, for when Trump is in
 the neighborhood playing “Leader of the Free World.”
 How will the beleaguered malignant narcissist react?
 Will he react according to form to this narcissistic
 insult with narcissistic rage? If the generals and Tillerson
 haven’t prepared a U.S. response and already briefed
 Trump we may have a situation where Trump takes it
 on himself bring out his list of military options and
 choose that most drastic - start World War III.
As Donald Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort and his right hand man, who still works at the RNC, surrendered Monday morning after being indicted in the Russia investigation, President Trump tweeted about President Obama and the DNC.


Trump’s projection has reached certifiable levels and would be laughable in its transparency were it not so troubling. Trump knew indictments for his crew were coming, so his mind turned to Obama.

Trump’a ability to blame Obama, Clinton, the media, the DNC, and liberals for his troubles is not some brilliant political strategy; it’s a reflection of his disordered mind. His need for love and approval. His willingness to lie, even to himself, to see things in a way that makes him comfortable.

These are not traits of a workable President.

Below: Here’s my question. Why would Russian state media publicize that the North Koreans are calling Trump mentally ill? This is the Russian party line, with a quote from Putin: >>>>> With Washington and Pyongyang amplifying their threats, Russian President Vladimir Putin cautioned in September that “ramping up military hysteria in such conditions is senseless,” and could in fact could lead to “a global, planetary catastrophe and a huge loss of human life.” <<<<< Where does Putin stand on the accusation being made by Kim Jung Un that Trump is mentally ill. Why would they inform the world through their english language propaganda, RT, that in essence and practice Kim has joined the DTW movement? Talk about strange bedfellows, American DTW therapists and Dear Leader. HB

Sunday, Oct. 29, 2017
Morning Edition

This story moved from somewhere on the Alternet website to the top story
(below, right) which in itself is significant.

That Trump finds imperfection and failure intolerable is hardly a wild professional speculation, but instead reflects the common sense awareness that sometimes people avoid negative feelings by exaggerating their opposite.  
This universal psychological tendency poses a problem if it is too extreme or compulsive.  Trump, for example, seems unable to not strike out if he is made to feel even a little bit of shame, guilt, or failure.  Such a reflex makes friendship, collegiality, compromise, or diplomacy impossible—significant problems in a Chief Executive.  An ordinary person afflicted with such a reflex would likely suffer social isolation, problems working with others, difficulties parenting, and an inability to be intimate.  For a President within reach of the nuclear football, this reflex can obviously have much more catastrophic consequences.

Trump brings a rubber knife to a gun fight. Advantage: Moore.
When I argue that Trump’s psychopathology is hiding in plain sight and that it is easily discerned using common sense, I mean to argue that, while having the imprimatur of mental health professionals’ diagnostic skills is useful, it is not necessary for understanding Trump’s emotional life.  A professional might use a diagnostic label such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder to describe him, but the label doesn’t add much to the notion, easily seen by lay people, that Trump inflates his power and importance to cover up a deep-seated sense of inferiority and insecurity.  In fact, this latter insight tells us more about what makes Trump tick than the label does.

Saturday, Oct. 28, 2017
Evening Edition: Editorial below.

Playbill fact-checks Trump's Michael Moore tweet - The Hill

This was posted during the fourth weekend in a row he spent as his golf club.
In the era of Trump, even  Broadway’s Playbill Magazine, fact-checks a Donald Trump Tweet. Trump is in a spastic unpredictable whirling dervish of attacks against anyone he is threatened by. 

We must be alert. Is he in a downward spiral of decompensation?

No doubt Trump was thrilled to see one of his nemeses having his show, “The Terms of My Surrender," close. Trump had to be - jumping - whatever he does for joy - when he read the show didn’t make as much money as was hoped. 

As Playbill and The Hill report, the show was meant to be a limited run and closed on schedule. His Tweet is an absolute lie. The show was not forced to close.

Another fact, apparently lost on Trump, is that the show will be on the road: The Oscar- and Emmy-winning filmmaker announced earlier this week that he intends to tour the country with The Terms of My Surrender next year. Itinerary details will be announced in the coming months.

 HBrown, Ed.


Moore’s show began performances July 28 at the Belasco Theatre, where it opened officially August 10. It was reported in May—when the show was announced—that it would play a 12-week limited engagement.
While the show was not a box-office front-runner (grossing less than half of its potential most weeks and drawing in a capacity hovering in the mid 70 percentile), it did play its fully scheduled run.
The Oscar- and Emmy-winning filmmaker announced earlier this week that he intends to tour the country with The Terms of My Surrender next year. Itinerary details will be announced in the coming months.
Morning Edition
By my friend from nearly day one of Duty to Warn.
The exchange of email between Covitz and Fox is priceless. Here’s how it ended:

Next day at 11:21AM, Friday the 27th, just as I was saying good-bye to my 10:30 visitor, the phone rang. 
"Hi. This is Dennis …. There's Breaking News in Washington and we need to postpone your interview with Jesse Watters." 
(HHC) "Oh, Dennis. I hadn't heard about it."
We were both polite, as he assured me that my future input would be invaluable.
I did send him a last e-mail during my AM-break.
Howard Covitz (hhcovitz@
To:Dennis @ Fox  Fri, Oct 27, 2017 12:21 pm
Thanks for the heads-up on postponement of this PM's taping. I did tell my sec'y to be on look-out for the Breaking News ... she had some curious comments about the fact that she couldn't find any, yet. I told her to keep looking. Thus far? Sky not Falling! With regard ... HHC
There is a principle of Biblical Exegesis: The Scripture never (entirely) leaves its simple meaning. There was Breaking News 10 hours later about Mueller … but, apparently, something else was pressing on Foxxy’s sensibilities. That is, some stories are "enough said," even if it means “They’re (not) gonna put me in the movies.”
”Bring in the Clowns!”

Moment of Zen, Republican Version
Step One on using a mantra to meditate from the Yoga Journal -

Select a favorite word, phrase, prayer, or fragment of a poem for meditation. Ideally, a mantra is composed of only a few words or syllables, so you can repeat it easily, without getting lost in a long phrase. Choose something uplifting that inspires you and engages your heart. Avoid words that stir up thoughts or disturb your mind.

Below: Nothing particularly noteworthy below 
trump mentally ill
Daily update  October 28, 2017

Some Republicans have recently begun to more openly cast doubt on President Donald Trump's mental health — previously an area in which only ...
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Corker, who has questioned Trump's mental stability, said the president will ... disorder for the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, ...
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Times columnist Thomas Friedman took it to a new level on Wednesday's Charlie Rose on PBS. Trump isn't mentally ill...he's a brain-eating disease.
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Like Nixon, Trump is corrupt. Like Nixon, Trump is psychologically flawed beyond the pale of what is acceptable in a person with access to the power ...
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Trump supporters just don't see impeachment in the cards for Trump. In Steyer's television ad he calls Trump: “mentally unstable,” and someone who ...
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Democrats turn to psych profs for dirt on Trump ... "Duty to Warn," which maintains that Donald Trump is too "mentally unstable" to serve as President.
Friday, Oct, 27, 2017
Evening edition:
If you thought there was something off, perhaps “not right” in how Trump handled the Halloween party in his office >>>

Trump pointed at the pool and asked the kids, “Do you know who they are? They are the friendly media.” He comforted one young girl, who was clearly a little nervous and crying. And he maintained a playful banter with the kids and the media.
“These are beautiful, wonderful children,” he said, turning to the kids. “Are you going to grow up and be like your parents? Mmm, don’t answer that. It can only get me in trouble. You have wonderful parents, right?”
“You get treated better by the press than anybody in the world, right?” he said, again eliciting laughter.
“Well, congratulations, folks. You did a good job,” he said to the reporters.
 Trump motioned toward the kids.
“Here, you did,” he said.
Trump then pointed at himself.

“I wouldn’t say you did very well here,” he said. “But really beautiful children.”

This DTW news was just published on the Russian government run SPUTNIK news network:

Scroll down if you missed the article in our own far right website, American Thinker, just as crazy as Alex Jones. 

The new Time Magazine cover story:
The  first part of the subtitle says it all for those who follow DTW:

While the President tweets and fulminates, his Cabinet is rewriting the rules of government

This hasn’t been reported in the MSM yet, but none-the-less is interesting. White House Officials Come Forward, Say Trump Preparing To Resign If Manafort Testifies

I missed this - did you?
The far right website  MRC NewsBusters (below) attacked Ron Reagan, except that everything he said was true.

The Russians:

October 26, 2017

This is the most vicious and downright wrong article about the Duty to Warn movement, and in particular about John Gartner.
Some of my comments:
Hal Brown answering: This Gartner guy is not a psychiatrist who are M.D.s first. He is a psychologist and should keep his non-board certified psycho-babbling trap shut...........I wrote:Hal Brown Wile E. Coyote • 2 minutes ago
Gartner is a board certified clinical psychologist who, while not an MD psychiatrist, has trained psychiatrists at one of the top institutions in the country, Johns Hopkins. It should be noted that psychiatrists don’t even start their psychology and psychiatric training until their residency, and have no more training than clinical psychologists. It should also be noted that many psychiatrists do not primarily practice psychotherapy, limiting their practices to psychopharmacology.

ReplyJust now
Hal Brown Hal Brown • 10 minutes ago
Has anybody here even looked up the meaning of malignant narcissist? Have they looked at the education and career of John Gartner? As a psychotherapist with over 40 years of experience diagnosis and treating patients, and having observed the president’s public behavior closely since he announced his candidacy, I find ample evidence to diagnose him without seeing him in-person. Thousands of very experienced psychotherapists agree with Dr. Gartner and I: Trump is a malignant narcissist. This article, filled with insults against Gartner, takes a page from the Trump counterpunching bullying book.
About American Thinker from Rational Wiki:
Social democracy is Marxist political entrepreneurshipGay marriageeco-terrorismwhite guiltBlack Panthersgays in the military, academic leftismglobal warmingcarbon offsetsmarijuanaveganismtranssexualsorganics, anti-globalization protests, pornanti-genetic modificationmulticulturalismabortionanimal rights, embryonic stem cell researchnew age cults, tribal casinos, affirmative actionpolitical correctness, the Akaka Bill, reparations, apologies... These products of the 40-year rise of social democratic political entrepreneurship are the foundations of the ‘consciousness nations' which now make up the Democrats' voter base.
—The site in a nutshell[1]
American Thinker (affectionately nicknamed "American Stinker" by its fans) is an online wingnut publication that's more or less the poor man's WND or Newsmax. They've published articles by such conservative luminaries as Noel Sheppard (NewsBusters) and Pamela Geller and such climate "experts" as S. Fred Singer and Christopher Monckton, as well as an interview with (and hagiography of) white nationalist Jared Taylor.[2]
The magazine, of course, is chock-full of right-wing conspiracy theorieswoo, and pseudoscience. On the conspiracy side, they promote birtherism, "creeping sharia," red-baiting, and still occasionally prattle on about Vince Foster. On the science side, they concentrate on creationism and global warming denials.


Rep. Jackie Speier, a California Democrat, explained to BuzzFeed News why she has consulted mental health professionals regarding Trump’s fitness to perform his job.

“It’s one thing from my non-professional, non-clinical standpoint (to) believe that someone does not have the capacity to do the job, it’s another thing to talk to experts and (those) who can deal with mental psychosis on a daily basis, so I wanted to hear from them,” Speier said.

Bandy Lee, a psychiatry professor at Yale, said six Democrats from the House and Senate have contacted her during the last several months to discuss Trump’s mental health.

Although Speier is not among the legislators who have contacted Lee, she said that she has contacted two other experts regarding the president’s mental health.
Speier spoke with Baltimore psychologist John Gartner, who is the founder of Duty to Warn, a network of politically active mental health experts across the country who appear to be disregarding the rules of their profession by diagnosing a public figure who they have not personally evaluated.

Duty to Warn borrowed their name from the “duty to warn” law in many states which requires mental health professionals who perceive that a patient might become dangerous to report their concerns, or risk legal liability.

Weds. Oct. 25, 2017
This is what I think: There’s no way to predict what, if anything, will trigger an impossible to ignore mental breakdown with Trump. It could be a case of “the straw that broke the camel’s back.” It could even be one of these seemingly insignificant attempts to troll him.  HB

“One of the reasons trolling him is so valuable strategically is that he does react to it,” Roland (a troller) said. “You can influence the latest thing he says on Twitter or what he says by getting in his Twitter feed or on the shows that he watches.”

In September, though, Mir (another troller) consulted on a splashier demonstration. Immigration advocates — angered when the administration canceled the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — set up an enormous paper effigy of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and then gleefully knocked it over as if he were a deposed dictator.
The new age of protesting has been good for the old art of protest-puppet making.
“It’s always been the case: A picture is worth a thousand words, and a puppet is worth a thousand times that,” said Nadine Bloch, the Takoma Park, Md., resident who made the ersatz Sessions and who has been one of Washington’s go-to makers of protest puppets since the Reagan era. “And if you can roll it down the street, smash it, it can be worth 1,000 times more.”
And if one of those makes the presidential Twitter feed, consider Trump trolled.

My Daily Kos article typed while watching first the NetFlic show Mindhunters and then Rachel Maddow:

Trump boasts of his Ivy League education to defend image

President Donald Trump touted his Ivy League education on Wednesday, highlighting his experiences as a college student nearly 50 years ago as proof that the media is reporting a false image of the 71-year-old president.

“I think the press makes me more uncivil than I am,” Trump told reporters Wednesday afternoon before departing the White House. 

“You know, people don’t understand. I went to an Ivy League college,” said Trump, who graduated from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania in 1968. (Ed. note: with a bachelors degree) “I was a nice student. I did very well. I’m a very intelligent person. You know, the fact is, I think, I really believe, I think the press creates a different image of Donald Trump than the real person.”

Trump did not elaborate on the apparent correlation between education and civility. But the president did accuse the media of reporting “fake stories” and “a lot of bad things” he said are untrue. He did not specify what stories he considered fake or untrue.

HuffPost headline embellished by HB
On Wednesday, Trump again pushed back on the claim about La David Johnson’s name, repeating it to reporters and saying he had stated it correctly during his initial call — in part because he was provided with a chart that had the fallen soldier’s name written out. 
“I certainly respect La David, who I, by the way, called La David right from the beginning,” he said. “Just so you understand, they put a chart in front — ‘La David,’ it says ‘La David Johnson.’ So I called right from the beginning.” From The Washington Post

Here’s an alternative to the 25th or impeachment:

Opinion New York Times |  OP-ED COLUMNIST

General Mattis, Stand Up to Trump or He’ll Drag You Down

Secretary Mattis, we don’t need any more diagnosis of the problem. We need action. And I am not talking about a coup. I mean you need to lead McMaster, Tillerson and Kelly (Pompeo is a lost cause) in telling Trump that if he does not change his ways you will all quit, en masse.
Trump needs to know that it is now your way or the highway — not his. That is how you talk to a bully. It’s the only language he understands.
Tell him: No more ridiculous tweeting attacks on people every morning; no more telling senators who forge bipartisan compromises on immigration or health care that he’s with them one day and against them the next; no more casual lying; no more feeding the base white supremacist “red meat” — no more distracting us from the real work of forging compromises for the American people and no more eroding the American creed.
Led by you and you alone, Secretary Mattis, your little squadron with Tillerson, Kelly and McMaster still has power. And if you can’t together force Trump onto an agenda of national healing and progress, then you should together tell him that he can govern with his kids and Sanders — because you took an oath to defend the Constitution, not to wipe up Trump’s daily filth with the uniform three of you wore so honorably.

Tuesday - Oct. 24, 2017  The great New Yorker cover hits the stands:

The New Yorker’s newest President Trump cover is the most brutal one yet (Salon)

An evil clown emerging from the forest. A fitting analogy for the presidency?


The New Yorker's newest cover is both brutal and inevitable. "It" was rebooted as a (movie) franchise this year, and the Joker still won't die. American Horror Story's latest season "Cult" stars Sarah Paulson as a woman with numerous phobias, among them a fear of clowns that intensifies after Donald Trump is elected president. With plenty of backlash from even his own party, Trump has been thought of as a scary joke. Now the New Yorker features Trump on their cover just in time for Halloween as a menacing clown. The cover, entitled "October Surprise" was painted by Carter Goodrich.

"My whole life has been disrupted. It’s a national nightmare," said Goodrich in the New Yorker, calling Trump a "dangerous clown.”

BEIJING — China’s Communist Party on Tuesday elevated President Xi Jinping to the same exalted status as the nation’s founding father, Mao Zedong, by writing his name and ideas into the party constitution.
The historic decision, at the end of a weeklong party congress, sent a clear signal to officials throughout China that questioning Mr. Xi and his policies would be ideological heresy.

The decision solidified Mr. Xi’s position as China’s most powerful leader in decades after only five years of leading the country, making it harder for rivals to challenge him and his policies.

- lots of 25th Amendment news today, plus an exclusive work in progress - a history of the Duty to Warn movement (scroll down). Does anybody want to guess what Trump will call Senator Flake when he hears what he said about him today. My guess is he’ll call him flakey Sen. Flake.

Why has Trump tried to shut down the Russia investigation, lied about Comey’s firing, persisted in efforts to intimidate key witnesses, inserted himself into misleading statements about his campaign advisers’ meetings with Russians offering to help him win the election, and held the sword of Damocles over the special counsel investigating him? Behind any effort to obstruct justice is a fear of the truth.
In a thorough 108-page factual and legal analysis for the Brookings Institution, Barry H. Berke, Noah Bookbinder and Norman Eisen outline in great detail the case against Trump. People lie for a reason, and Trump is no exception. What he feared — and apparently still fears — continues to seep out.

Trump’s erratic behavior has many questioning his mental fitness to remain in office. But throughout his life, Trump’s actions have always been rational in a key respect: Trump does what is best for Trump, regardless of the consequences. If that means obstructing justice, so be it.


A member of the House Intelligence Committee is going where many of her colleagues have not: reaching out to people in the mental health field to talk about President Donald Trump.
“It’s one thing from my non-professional, non-clinical standpoint [to] believe that someone does not have the capacity to do the job, it’s another thing to talk to experts and [those] who can deal with mental psychosis on a daily basis, so I wanted to hear from them,” Rep. Jackie Speier, a California Democrat, told BuzzFeed News.
While many Democrats have steered clear of speculation about Trump, Speier appears not to be alone in talking to mental health professionals. Half a dozen lawmakers have contacted Bandy Lee, a psychiatry professor at Yale, to talk about the president’s mental state over the past several months, Lee told BuzzFeed News. Although Lee wouldn’t identify the politicians, she said they were Democrats in both the House and Senate.
Speier said she has not spoken with Lee, but that she reached out to two experts to discuss Trump’s mental health, including John Gartner, a psychologist. Gartner is the founder of Duty to Warn, a network of mental health experts across the country making a concerted push into politics and who appear to be circumventing their profession's own rules about diagnosing public figures they have never evaluated themselves. (The traditional concept of a “duty to warn,” ingrained in law in most states, says mental health professionals who have reason to believe a patient may become dangerous or violent toward others must reveal that information, or else risk legal liability.)

KABUL, Afghanistan — It was Kabul and it wasn’t Kabul. There was a clock and there wasn’t a clock.
Soon after a two-hour secret visit to Afghanistan by Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson on Monday was publicly disclosed, the American Embassy and the office of President Ashraf Ghani made statements about their productive meeting in Kabul.
The problem is that the meeting was not in Kabul, but in a windowless room in Bagram, the heavily fortified American military base a 90-minute drive away. The misinformation, apparently meant to obscure the true venue, was betrayed by discrepancies in similar photographs released by the Americans and the Afghans.
Both show Mr. Tillerson and Mr. Ghani sitting at the head of the room, two giant television screens behind them. On the coffee table between them is a thermos, two cups, and bottled water. Their delegations sit across from each other.

A history of the movement called  Duty to Warn
by Hal Brown, Member since Sept. 3, 2016

The reason d’être for the Duty to Warn movement is to alert Congress, the media, and the public that numerous highly experienced psychiatrists, psychologists, and clinical social workers consider that Trump is unfit for office because of his psychopathology.

While there has been some disagreement as to whether to call our assessments a diagnosis like malignant narcissism ( the consensus among those who diagnose him) or something else, we are all agreeing that it is Trump’s mental state that makes him a dangerous president.
This history to day:


The Free Therapists group which now numbers 118 members, all vetted by the admisntrators, Howard Covitz and I to be credentialed mental health professions, was started by Howard Covitz on Sept. 1, 2016.  

These are the earliest members. Gabriele Chorney, Seibolt Frieswyk, Barbara Cunningham, Neil Friedman, and I have posted hundreds, probably thousands, of comments there. It has become something of a think tank. If you are a mental health professional interested in joined please email me at with verifiable information about your background.

In April, 2016, Psychologist Philip Zimbardo of the Stanford Prison Experiment: wrote "Donald Trump is an “unconstrained, unbridled present hedonist” and turned out to be the first of our famous mental health professionals until he moved to an honorable  second place after the Yale Conference.

Best selling psychoanalyst Justin Frank started his blog, still going strong, in 2016 He is working on a book “Trump on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President” which hopefully will be a best seller.

Another mental health professional to gain significant media attention was Dan McAdams who was the focus of the front cover article in The Atlantic “The Mind of Donald Trump” on the June, 2016 issue.

Another psychologist, William Doherty was all over the media, and he could have bragging rights as a member of the 2016 DTW group, but scroll down to “Villains” to see why he doesn’t. 


The face and voice of our movement is clinical psychologist John Gartner. He hit the public eye, first with an article on Jan. 27, 2017 about DTW in The Bi-Partisan Report, and on what seem to be the same day, a major article in USA Today

It was the USA Today article that opened the media doors. It’s easy to see how much so by Googling Trump and Gartner.

I can’t find the exact date John D Gartner put his petition online, but I did write about it on Daily Kos on Jan. 31, 2017 when it hit 5,000 (that's five thousand). In writing this, I discovered my story was picked up by a newspaper in Elk Park, Illinois. Last month the number of signatures exceeded that 10 times. 

Psychiatrist Lance Dodes is an important pioneer, not just because he got interviewed along with John D Gartner on Lawrence O’Donnell (a milestone for DTW). He was the primary signatory in the letter from 35 mental health professionals to the New York Times published on Feb. 13, 2017. 

On May 25, 2017 Yale Psychiatrist Bandy Lee was interviewed by Salon columnist Chauncy DeVega.

A milstone in the DTW movement was the Yale conference on (I think) April 20, 2017 which was organized by Bandy Lee. There was one naysayer, who defended the Goldwater rule, at the conference who has disappeared from any DTW discussion. 

In addition to Bandy Lee, the participants new to the DTW spotlight were Robert Jay Lifton, arguably the most famous living psychiatrist, and James Gilligan. Lifton bumped Philip Zimbardo to the second most famous mental health professional in DTW. All undergraduate psychology majors are familiar with them. John Gartner wasn’t on the actual panel at the conference but addressed it via video.

The Yale Conference (as it has come to be called) led to a huge burst of media coverage.

John Gartner wrote "All I Ever Wanted to Know about Donald Trump I Learned From His Tweets," analyzing the president’s behavior from his Twitter activity which illustrated his narcissism, paranoia, among other pathologies. This gain DTW a flurry of publicity, including an excerpt published on Salon

The next major event was the publication of “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump” edited by Bandy Lee. In a week or two it hit number four on the NY Times non-fiction best seller list. The book was reviewed everywhere, or so it seemed. The reviews were almost all positive.  Not only did it get amazing publicity, but it ended up on Wikipedia!

The Oct. 14, 2017 DTW meetings around the country were timed perfectly to follow the publicity about the Bandy Lee book. John Gartner was the driving force behind organizing these meetings.

The Naysayers
On June 23, 2016, William Doherty, a psychologist started a website called Citizen Therapists for Democracy, and Facebook group for therapists wanting to warn Trump was unfit while refusing let the members discuss why. 
Notably, this led to Howard Covitz and Hal Brown being banned, and our being the rabble rousers in the very early brainchild of Howard Covitz the one and Only Scary Clown. Doherty got a lot of media coverage even although he never touched on Trump’s psychopathology. Doherty, none the less got a fair amount of publicity 
Allen Francis, who got lots of publicity in almost every article claiming he was the owner of the NPD disorder and saying Trump didn’t have it, and basically saying he had not psychological impairment.
The APA*  which issued a fatwa against members who dared diagnose or even hint at psychopathology of Trump.

Most recently Bandy Lee broke with John Gartner and she went public with her reasons on BuzzFeed:

“The solution to Trump is not psychological name-calling, it’s political action,” Allen Frances, former chair of the department of psychiatry at Duke, told BuzzFeed News. 
Lee, who was initially affiliated with Duty to Warn, told BuzzFeed News she has distanced herself from Gartner and disagrees with mental health experts diagnosing Trump and advocating for a political outcome. 
The disagreement between John Gartner and Bandy Lee played out in numerous back and forth comments on the 5,000 member Duty to Warn Facebook group. It has since been deleted.

American Psychiatric Association, composed at least of a number of members who fainted during gross anatomy in medical school.

Hal Brown On William Doherty:

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Hal Brown This one was the ground-breaker

Some say President Donald Trump's personality isn't just flawed, it's dangerous.

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Monday, Oct. 23, 2017

You be the judge:

Does Trump ever tear up, let alone cry?

Before getting out of bed I turned on MSNBC and saw Myeshia Johnson being interviewed. She made my throat tighten up, and brought tears to my eyes. Trump is now focusing his narcissistic rage on her via Twitter.

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"Trump took a very different course, opting for full, blanket denials. But Trump's own White House has revealed those broad claims of absolution to be disingenuous at best. Far from producing proof of what he said being “totally fabricated,” Trump's case has fallen apart thanks to those tasked with defending him."


Donald Trump has a particular taste for the degradation of racial, ethnic and religious minorities and women — and God forbid those identities should overlap — as a way of playing out his personal sense of racial, sexist, and patriarchal entitlement. And as he degrades, he plays to those very same entitlements in the base that elected him.
This has manifested itself most recently in a despicable episode in which Trump became embroiled in a controversy — mostly of his own making! — over an unacceptable call he made to a pregnant widow of one of four soldiers killed in a still-murky attack in Niger.
What's perhaps most remarkable about the president's continued objections, though, is that his own White House isn't doing the same. While Trump has disputed the story — even claiming to have still-yet-to-be-produced “proof” to back it up — the White House has largely seemed to confirm that he said the things he has been accused of saying. They simply argue that they've been misinterpreted.
There were basically two main claims offered by Wilson:
  1. That Trump said the widow's husband, Sgt. La David Johnson, “knew what he was signing up for.”
  2. That Trump didn't seem to recall Sgt. Johnson's name.

Trump disputes military widow's account of condolence call

Sunday, Oct. 22, 2017

Donald Trump's psyche in the spotlight
USA. In light of internal party battles and an attentive book of 27 mental health experts, Donald Trump's psyche poses a threat to US air's questions about how - formally - a president can be deprived. But Trump's core voter is loyal and stands behind the leader.
The book "The dangerous case Donald Trump" has shortly become a bestseller and a snack in the United States. In that, 27 of the country's leading psychiatrists, psychologists and other mental health experts write about how they look at the president. Theories about pathological narcissism (self-sufficiency) and hedonism (pleasure) are presented. Experts state that it is their moral duty to warn their countrymen for the president - and what he does with the United States.

Unique warnings

In the same spirit, the movement "A Duty to Warn" (about a duty to warn) started with events in 14 cities in mid-October. It is also run by a group of psychiatrists who jointly claim that the president suffers "unbearable, malignant narcissism" that prevents him from performing his duties as president, for example, writes the New Yorker magazine.


But Dr. John Gartner, who founded "A Duty to Warn", disregards that (Goldwater) rule in the light of Trump's presidency.

Standing up for Trump

In parallel, reports of Trump's poison pills against party mates, own ministers and political opponents tighten.

Judges in liberal media, as well as "A Duty to Warn", have therefore raised the issue of the 25th Addendum. It says that a president can be declared unable to fulfill his duties by either the vice president and a majority of the government or by a special committee appointed by the congress.


Dirty urgently sought: 10 million US dollars is offered by erotic mogul Larry Flynt for evidence that could lead to the impeachment of Donald Trump. Our author makes great hopes for the money.


Selbst Männer in Trumps eigener Partei scheinen Hinweise in dieser Sache geben zu können, etwa Außenminister Rex Tillerson, der Trump für einen »verdammten Schwachkopf« hält oder Parteifreund Bob Corker, für den das Weisse Haus zu einer »Betreuungseinricihtung für Erwachsene« verkommt. Sogar Trumps Ex-Berater Steve Bannon wird damit zitiert, er halte Artikel 25 für die größte Gefahr für Trumps Präsidentschaft. Normalerweise ziemt es sich für Psychiater nicht, Ferndiagnosen abzugeben, aber der Psychologe John Gartner diagnostizierte bei Trump »bösartigen Narzissmus«, der mit Paranoia, antisozialem Verhalten und Sadismus einhergehe. 27 Psychiater und Psychologen schlossen sich Gartner an und halten die Lage für so dringend, dass sie Artikel 25 geltend machen wollen. Sie veranstalten derzeit Diskussionsrunden in ganz Amerika und verweisen auf ihre »Pflicht zu warnen«. 

Google translate:

Even men in Trumps's own party seem to be able to point this out, for example, Foreign Minister Rex Tillerson, who considers Trump to be a "damn weakhead," or Party Captain and Bob Corker, for whom the White House is a "support for adults." Even Trumps ex-advisor Steve Bannon is quoted as saying that he regards Article 25 as the greatest threat to the Trumps presidency. Normally psychiatrists do not like to give remote diagnoses, but the psychologist John Gartner diagnosed Trump "malignant narcissism", which is associated with paranoia, anti-social behavior and sadism. 27 psychiatrists and psychologists joined Gartner and considered the situation so urgent that they wanted to claim Article 25. They are currently organizing discussion sessions all over America and refer to their "duty to warn"







Is the Japanese who said "arrogance cards" is too peaceful?

President Donald Tramp, who has spoken about all-you-can-say assertions until the end of 10 months since taking office as President from the presidential election period. Even now that I came to visit Japan two weeks later, there is no sign of refraining from Zitter's abusive habit.

80% of our Japanese who touched foreign leaders with courtesy to some extent affixed a label called "Arrogant" to Mr. Trump. Furthermore, 62% answered "narrow" and 56% answered "dangerous" (see = http: //

One of the US diplomats is sarcasmically commenting on this Japanese "trump arrogance".

"People in Japan who have trump cards as arrogant are kind and it is too restful, it's too mild to evaluate against playing cards, most Americans are convinced that playing cards is a personality disorder"

In fact, the former diplomat says so, in the United States in the early October, 27 psychiatrists said that "President Trump is a patient with extreme psychiatric disorder and it is ineligible for the president" Because it is.

The following article has lengthy summaries from “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump"
Another DTW article, this one in Black Star News
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Some said Trump is senile. Indeed he is the oldest president to have ever assumed office.  Some said he is ignorant. Indeed he is the first president to have never held a public office prior to assuming the presidency.
Some said he was a narcissists; indeed he is the first president to appear on the cover of Playboy magazine or in a soft core porn film or on an audiotape confessing sexually assaulting women.
Others said he was a simple sociopath.
Indeed he is the first president to refuse to show his tax returns. Indeed, diagnoses abounded last weekend when hundreds of Psychiatrists, psychologists and other mental health practitioners of the Duty to Warn movement met in a dozen Town Hall meetings around the countryincluding right here in New York at New York University Law School to demand the removal of Donald Trump from office because of what they called his dangerous lack of mental capacity to serve as president.
Speaker after speaker at the NYU location cited Trump's "clearly observable behaviors" and "dangerous statements" as evidence of his unfitness for office.

Quote of the Day

"I’m sick of him giving people nicknames” from Wacky Congresswoman Wilson - who is a member of the non-existent Democrat Party which ran “Crocked Hillary Clinton” for president. What a class act the president is. HB

Breaking: Jimmy Carter says Trump unfair called deranged

“I think the media have been harder on Trump than any other president certainly that I’ve known about,” Carter replied. “I think they feel free to claim that Trump is mentally deranged and everything else without hesitation.” NT Times Maureen Dowd interview

‘My pain is everyday’: After Weinstein’s fall, Trump accusers wonder: Why not him? Washington Post (video)

Saturday Night Edition: Covering Up for Another Trump Lie

Report: White House Rush-Sending Condolences To Gold Star Families

At least three families said they received express-shipped packages from the White House after Trump claimed he called “virtually everybody.”

EXCERPT:  Multiple families of military service members killed in the line duty are now getting rush-delivered letters from President Donald Trump, days after Trump claimed he had called the immediate families of all service members who had been killed since he took office in January.
Unapologetically profane

Editorial: I just read an OpEd by Williams Rivers Pitt on TruthOut (“Unreality Distilled: The United States of Trump”) and noticed how he does something I’d venture a guess to say many of us also to. He talks to Trump in his mind. Other’s probably talk to him, or yell at him, when he’s on TV. 

He begins: 

Workers of firm involved with the discredited and Fake Dossier take the 5th. Who paid for it, Russia, the FBI or the Dems (or all)?-- Donald J. Trump via Twitter, 19 October 2017, 7:56am 
Sometimes I talk to the president of the United States in my head. It's weird, but I have to. (emphasis added) 
Dude, I say (I can hyperlink words when I talk to the president in my head). Dude, whatReally? It always begins this way. We've covered some serious ground, the president and I, over the 40 miles of bad road that has been the last two years of American politics. His attacks on Muslims and Mexicans, his marauding misogyny, the border wall, penis measuring during a nationally-televised debate, the bag of hammers he chose for his Cabinet, Russia Russia Russia, Puerto Rico, North Korea, his embrace of Nazis and Klansmen, the NFL, the families of fallen soldiers, meeting the president of the Virgin Islands, Comey, Clinton, Mueller, Obama and all his favorite people -- there isn't much we haven't discussed. It always starts the same way.
It immediately occurred to me that one DTW therapist actually got to talk to (a) Donald Trump directly. (The video is here.) Not just talk, mind you, he was able to conduct a psychological assessment, something our critics say is necessary to make a psychological assessment or a diagnosis.

I wonder what John thought as he did a damn good job responding to The President Show’s (Comedy Central)   Anthony Atamanuik's fake Donald Trump. He didnt even crack a smile, let along break out laughing, as the talented professional fake Tump deftly answered his 

Friday, Oct. 20, 2017
Don’t miss this video! Then scroll down for the rest of the Duty to Warn media coverage for today. John Gartner was also interview on the Randi Rhodes show, but I don’t have a link to that segment.

If this video fails to play try this link:

Excerpt from article:

On Thursday’s show, that undiagnosed mess met a real doctor, as Atamanuik’s Trump is tricked by his blandly wily sidekick Mike Pence (peerless straight man Peter Grosz) into sitting down with Dr. John Gartner, practicing therapist and head of the organization Duty To Warn. The group is made up of mental health professionals who’ve banded together to warn Americans that, in their collective opinion, Trump is mentally unfit to hold the office of president and therefore should be removed from office under the terms of the 25th Amendment. 

Needless to say, Atamanuik’s Trump isn’t too happy to find himself in the doctor’s office, although once Pence assures him the whole purpose of therapy is to talk about himself non-stop, he warms up, spilling some speculatively disturbing interior monologues that go a long way toward explaining why he is, in Gartner’s words, a dangerous narcissist with no impulse control, paranoiac tendencies, and an unusual need for approval.

What happens after Trump leaves the interview and hits the street (Spoiler: presumably Fifth Avenue) is both hilarious and terrifying).

My thoughts on Turley’s thoughts:


Which brings us to option two (aside from the Pence and Cabinet option). Section 4 states that a decision to remove the president could be made, alternatively, by “such other body as Congress may by law provide.” This is the course Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) has sought with proposed legislation to create an “Oversight Commission on Presidential Capacity”—a body to decide if the president is physically and mentally fit. But even in the unlikely event that Republicans supported this approach, the process still calls for the vice president’s assent, and it’s even less likely that Pence would stake his political fortunes on dumping Trump.
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More importantly, any disability review commission would be tasked with finding a mental or physical disability — unlikely. A group of self-declared “mental health professionals and members of the public” called Duty to Warn recently marched to call for a 25th Amendment removal on the supposition that Trump has an incurable malignant narcissism and “is too seriously mentally ill to competently discharge his duties as the president.” Narcissistic Personality Disorder is defined as “grandiosity, a lack of empathy for other people, and a need for admiration,” which, indeed, describes Trump. But let’s face it: If we started removing public servants because they were narcissists, the nation’s Capital might become a virtual ghost town. In D.C., the question isn’t who fits that definition? but, who doesn’t?
Moreover, declaring the president unfit without an examination runs counter to the American Psychiatric Association’s “Goldwater Rule” that doctors cannot express professional opinions about public figures they have not personally examined.
Editorial Comment: Turley obviously does not understand malignant narcissism. He does not have a grasp of the way Trump’s behavior is on a downward spiral, suggesting that “more compelling evidence of incapacity” may very well come sooner rather than later. Most DTW therapists have been predicting that this is a real possibility. HB


Unlike true leaders, however, Trump seems to associate humility with weakness. When confronted with an error, big or small, he never just says, “I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I apologize,” and leaves it at that. He always seeks to deflect responsibility. Somebody else is really at fault. Others who came before him have done worse. Bad people in the media are treating him unfairly.

Trump is a weak, narcissistic man in a job that requires strength and empathy. I’m not sure that empathy is a concept he even understands. He acts as if he believes that feeling someone else’s pain is strictly for losers, not winners.
None of this is a surprise. We learned a lot about Trump during the campaign when he attacked the Khan family, who lost a son in Iraq, for having the temerity to attack him politically. We have a president who believes that making the ultimate sacrifice for the nation is less important than supporting or opposing Trump.


Sadly, that’s typical Trump. He makes a grand promise, which allows him to feel big and generous — which is the whole point. Even in interactions with Gold Star families, it’s all about him. Later, having played the role of Trump the Munificent, he forgets about it and goes in search of the next opportunity to shore up his fragile ego.

No one should expect him to grow in office. He’s 71. At that age, either you have compassion, self-knowledge and a conscience, or you don’t.

DTW is asking: what the chances of Trump being removed under the 25th Amendment?

Where better to go for odds than Nate Silver on 538… he wrote an article after Trump’s inauguration.

That article laid out 14 possible tracks the administration could take. 

In this new article he and his colleagues go through each scenario. Everyone had to rank it on a scale from 1 (has become much less likely since Trump was sworn in) to 10 (has become much more likely since Trump was sworn in).” 

At the time the original article was published hardly anybody even knew about the 25th Amendment, so the closest to this scenario is this: 

But this gets us a bit into the second scenario …This follows No. 1: "Trump keeps on Trumpin’ and the country remains evenly divided." 

No. 2. Trump gradually (or not-so-gradually) enters a death spiral. Liberals and other Trump adversaries might overrate the likelihood of this scenario … His problems could be self-reinforcing as issues pile on top of one another and public opinion turns against him, especially if the more coolheaded and competent advisers and Cabinet members flee the White House as Trump begins to falter. In this scenario, Trump’s approval ratings wouldn’t necessarily fall off a cliff — his base would give him a mulligan or two — but they would move slowly and inexorably downward, as happened to George W. Bush during his last two years in office.

perry: 9.
hilary.krieger: 7.5.
natesilver: 6.5.
harry: Greater than 5, less than 10. I agree with Hilary: 7.5.
micah: Hmmm …
I’ll go 7.
perry: I guess I feel like this is happening, even if it’s not more likely than it was in February. Are we debating if this is happening or if this is a shift from expectations?
micah: A combo.

natesilver: Yeah, we’re sort of splitting the uprights between the first two scenarios so far. If I had to lean toward one, I’d go with No. 2 over No. 1. Narratively, it holds up better: “His problems could be self-reinforcing as issues pile on top of one another and public opinion turns against him” sounds fairly prescient.