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So when he said "They knew what they signed up for" it was in the context of a much longer empathic condolence. Kelly says that this was Trump’s way of trying to say what Kelly suggested he say.
Were Kelly to tell the unvarnished truth, which I hope he knows, he’d admit that Trump’s words were not artfully expressed. He’d say that Trump has little if any comprehension of empathy which made his role helping Trump feign empathy is difficult if not impossible.
What the president without empathy got from Kelly’s instruction was just that one brief sentence.
Coming from a president who avoided military service it was cold and cruel. Then he went on to attack Rep. Wilson, ignoring that she was in the car with the family and saw how they reacted to the president's word.
Proof - Gen. Kelly is a tool and toady who is shamelessly cover for his commander-in-chief.
More extensive reaction to Kelly’s remarks from Josh Marshall in “John Kelly’s Volcanic Remark” for Talking Points Memo.
Next: Not quite a crescendo - but our Duty to Warn keeps being covered more and more.
Excerpt: This is, of course, somewhat common fare by this point in the arc of Trump's presidency. Faced this week with storylines he doesn't like -- questions about the Niger attack, controversy over a phone call he placed to the widow of one of the soldiers lost in that attack, Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Capitol Hill facing questions about Russian meddling in the election -- he aims to change the subject via his Twitter feed. And he often does so by lobbing out a conspiracy theory with only the loosest ties to the factual world.
But even by Trump standards, this morning's tweet is somewhat remarkable. He is suggesting that a dossier prepared by a former member of British intelligence has not only been totally discredited (it hasn't -- more on that in a minute) but that it might have been funded by some combination of Russia, the Democratic Party and, wait for it, the FBI!
My Daily Kos story today:
Duty to Warn 25th Amendment 1-2-3 punch puts Trump onto the canvas in perfect storm of events.
Weds Oct. 18, 2017
Lawrence O'Donnell began with an unexpected bang for DTWers, and ended with another bang. Here’s the 15 minute introductory monologue.
In his introduction Lawrence put an image of “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump” on the screen and spent his monologue talking his agreeing with the 27 Bandy Lee contributors, and many other mental health professionals who say Trump is mental unfit for office.
The last segment was Richard Painter, co-auther of the article (see below) explaining why it’s imperative that the 25th Amendment be initiated. Painter, a Republican, called out the members of Congress who he knows are aware of this. He sid many of them are afraid Trump will run someone in a primary if they dare to cross him.
Stay turned for Late Night, another Republican Charle Sykes, talks about Trump lacking empathy and being tone deaf to the emotions of slain soldiers family.
Duty to Warn news:
Now for something completely different, from of all places, The National Review. It is the holdout bastion of intelligent conservatism:
Donald Trump: America’s Talent-in-Chief,
Trump acts more like the Hollywood star who must be catered to than the head of state. By Jonah Goldberg
Medal of Honor recipient Col. Jack Jacobs (Ret) just reminded us of this classic George Constanza line.
And then in a less well known venue, there’s this irreverent piece by a Sandusky Register columnist:
In 1964 when Fact magazine published the article “The Unconscious of a Conservative: A Special Issue on the Mind of Barry Goldwater.” The magazine polled 1,189 psychiatrists about American Senator Barry Goldwater and whether he was fit to be president.
The mother of a soldier killed in Niger this month confirmed Florida Rep. Frederica S. Wilson’s claim that President Trump told her family that her son “must have known what he signed up for,” The Washington Post reported Wednesday. “President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband,” said Cowanda Jones-Johnson, the mother of Sgt. La David T. Johnson. Wilson told MSNBC that Johnson’s widow “was crying the whole time, and when she hung up the phone, she looked at me and said, ‘He didn’t even remember his name.’ That’s the hurting part.” Jones-Johnson told The Washington Post that Wilson’s account of the call was accurate.
Trump just said his comment to a war widow was ‘fabricated.’ In an interview, the witness pushes back. Washington Post
Trump reacted almost immediately,
and Morning Joe responds:
Tuesday, Oct. 17, 2017 Evening
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“He knew what he signed up for.” Donald Trump
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Here it is:
10.16.17 Dr. Gartner MSNBC Part 2 from John Gartner on Vimeo.
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John Gartner made it clear and credible in his interview on Lawrence O’Donnell that Donald Trump is a dangerous malignant narcissist:
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After you watch John Gartner, take a video break with this:
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Column: Get rid of Trump with the 25th Amendment, not impeachment (Washington Post - available without subscription)
Mental health professionals have now warned us: This man should not be president, and we’re all to blame that he is. Salon, by Paul Rosenberg
Sunday, Oct. 15, 2017
Late night addition/edition, because you need a good laugh:
From The Washington Post:
And now, a day filled with Duty to Warn news:
John Gartner and US Rep. Jamie Raskin at the Duty to Warn conference yesterday - Part 1
> Last six minutes of video
Excerpt: The book’s (“The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump”) contributors are not wackos. They are at the top of their professions, and sincerely believe that Trump is a danger to their country.
Saturday, Oct. 14, 2017
The history of the DTW movement will be enshrined in many books if and hopefully when Trump boards Marine (no longer One) for the last time. Glory Hallelujah.
By Hal Brown, Editor, Publisher
Excerpt: “The degree of positive thinking that we talk about in the paper bears no resemblance to what President Trump is exhibiting on a daily basis, which would be an extreme form of what we talked about,” said Brown from the University of Washington. “What we were really looking at was sort of … should you know what you are really like? Is a person best served by knowing what they are really like? And I think the answer to that is no. You’re better served believing you are a little bit better than you are—but not wildly …”
Brown cited the opening salvo of the Trump administration: the fight over the size of the turnout at his Inauguration. He somehow saw a crowd that was larger than it factually was, and said so. That, Brown said, isn’t self-confidence or self-assertion. “That’s bizarre. That isn’t within the normal range of human behavior,” he said. “No psychologist would say that’s adaptive.”
“There is a lot to like in the idea of power of positive thinking,” Ed Diener, one of the country’s leading researchers of happiness, told me, “but of course it must be grounded in a degree of realism.”And where’s that dividing line?
The dividing line, Diener said, “is when the delusions become dysfunctional.
And where is that?
“Where the distortions become strong enough that they make one act irrationally, impulsively,” he said.
“The biggest problem with the Norman Vincent Peale version of positive thinking,” said Wellesley’s Norem, “is that you can’t know when you’ve crossed the line—because if you’re accepting that as a philosophy, you’re already defining out of the picture any negative thoughts. And one of the ways in which Trump is so extreme is the extent to which he does that for himself.
So he’s at the center of this positive world, and anything negative that impinges on it is evil, bad and forbidden.”
He won’t see the line if and when it arrives.
As for the rest of us?
“I mean, if we’re all blown up, in a nuclear war,” Norem said, “then that’s going to be a pretty clear line.”
We still believe Trump is driven primarily by his malignant narcissism, however we must not dismiss Howard Fineman’s warning in "The Method To The Moron’s Madness.”
Maybe. But Trump’s father, who belittled him while repeatedly demanding that he grow up to be a “killer” and a “king,” died at the age of 93. Donald will be 74 in 2020. And he already thinks he is a king.
Below: Beyond Irony, Try Not to Gag Department: (HB):Additional Reading:
Thanks to our president: National Character Counts Week
Beloved by Evangelicals (link), admired by Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby and others you’d be delighted to have your daughter be invited to their hotel room by. (HB)
character |ˈkerəktər| nounthe mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual: running away was not in keeping with her character.
For Immediate Release
Watch “Duty to Warn: The Movie” which is being played at the 13 conferences across the country today.
Reports are that some of the venues have no more room. The most recent event scheduled is in Honolulu. Other events:
WASHINGTON D.C. | NEW YORK, NY | LOS ANGELES | ATLANTA| CHAPEL HILL, NC | CHATTANOOGA, TN | CHICAGO | DENVER | HONOLULU | LAKE NORMAN, NC | OAKLAND, CA | PHILADELPHIA| PONTE VEDRA, FL | SANTA ROSA, CA | More information at http://adutytowarn.org
Below: He’s so proud: The video (being replayed on MSNBC) of Trump signing the health care executive destruction disorder is telling, to say the least. Still photos like this don’t do Trump’s malignancy justice. He appeared angry and determined, with an almost manic look on his face……. as he bore down on his Sharpie so hard I’m surprised the tip didn’t break off. You'd think he was ordering the execution of Osama bin Laden… oh, wait, Obama did that. He gave the pen to Rand Paul. What a group of reprehensible smiling breeding in shit maggots. Proving to biologists that even under some circumstances, maggots can smile. (HB)
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Friday, Oct. 13, 2017
I cracked up along with Ari Melber as he interviewed comedian Richard Lewis. (HB)
All Readers: Dr. John Gartner is scheduled to be interviewed live on Lawrence O’Donnell Monday night (correction - this was originally reported as being on tonight). This is probably a good thing since the national Duty to Warn meetings are being held tomorrow. Reports are that some of the venues have no more room. The most recent event scheduled is in Honolulu. Other events:
WASHINGTON D.C. | NEW YORK, NY | LOS ANGELES | ATLANTA| CHAPEL HILL, NC | CHATTANOOGA, TN | CHICAGO | DENVER | HONOLULU | LAKE NORMAN, NC | OAKLAND, CA | PHILADELPHIA| PONTE VEDRA, FL | SANTA ROSA, CA | More information at http://adutytowarn.org
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John Gartner on Lawrence O’Donnell. The first time
it was psychiatrist Lance Dodes.
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Quote of the Day: There's a cry for help coming from inside the house -- the White House. Everyone can hear it, but nobody can figure out how to disarm the crazy man who's holding the country hostage. He has no intention of surrendering. Heather “Digby” Parton in Salon
From Esquire - coverage of Duty to Warn, hopefully, is close to reaching a critical mass. Trump better not stray too far from the White House bunker. (HB)
“These signs, his behaviors, are not going to disappear. The president is not going to pivot or become more normal with time. We can expect that things will only get worse… The patterns we lay out fit certain pathological patterns, and the inevitable course is that things will intensify. For instance, the kind of fights and rage reactions that are emerging. This is because reality and human relations will never satisfy Mr. Trump’s expectations, and therefore he’s likely to have more conflicts and generate more false realities in order to fulfill his emotional needs.”
Is President Trump mentally unfit? Saturday forum to weigh the risks - Local events are planned for Oct. 14th around the country. This is what is planned for Chapel Hill
Excerpt from article:
Thurs. Oct. 12, 2017
Evening edition: You can’t make this crap up….
Washington Post Opinion by Howard Fineman
Morning Joe erupts in laughter at Trump pulling NBC’s non-existent license: ‘Only a moron would think that’
The Memo: Who's winning Trump's war with media? From The Hill
Weds. Oct. 11, 2017
He’d soon discover that what he thought was a nuclear Tweet-storm against this "failed hip-hop / rap phenomenon” turned out to be a smack with a wet noodle. HB
That’s a tangible expression of power,
and it’s not subject to veto. Trump can
launch a nuclear strike without any
intervention, likely becoming a global
pariah but, certainly, demonstrating the
power of the United States and its president.
(Especially the power of Trump personally,
which is what he really cares about. HB)
The president is explicitly threatening to suppress coverage he doesn't like.
Tillerson and Corker have spoken out against Trump because he’s dangerous — and lurching toward nuclear war
Does Trump dare attack Eminem back? How far does his malignant narcissism go?
Robert Reich on Facebook this morning
Just published tonight in the New York Times:
Eminem is the best-selling artist of the 2000s in the United States. Throughout his career, he has had 10 number-one albums on the Billboard 200 and five number-one singles on the Billboard Hot 100. With US sales of 47.4 million albums and 42 million tracks as of June 2014, Eminem is the second best-selling male artist of the Nielsen SoundScan era, the sixth best-selling artist in the United States and the best-selling hip-hop artist. Globally, he has sold more than 172 million albums, making him one of the world's best-selling artists. Rolling Stone ranked him 83rd on its list of 100 Greatest Artists of All Time, calling him the King of Hip Hop.
TRUMP WATCH-An elderly elephant with a blond pompadour inhabits the Oval Office. The elephant is not the physical being of Donald Trump but rather his unbalanced mental health. Trump is mentally unstable in a fashion and to a degree which is properly characterized as mentally ill. As often occurs with elephants in the room, the nation has refused to deal with this looming nightmare. An intervention is long overdue. Click below:
Recommended read from CityWatch, Los Angeles, excerpt:
What's obviously hypocritical here as that a lot of these criticisms pale in comparison to what Trump has registered about his opponents. He has questioned the war hero status of John McCain. He has attacked a Gold Star family. He called his primary foe a liar — repeatedly. He called his Democratic opponent a criminal who should be jailed. And most importantly, he was one of the most vocal critics of the last sitting president, even suggesting he was a fraud whose presidency was illegitimate.
All of that was okay, but suggesting President Trump is volatile and dangerous is not, apparently. The undermining of Barack Obama's legitimacy was apparently okay . . . because he deserved it? If Hillary Clinton had become president, we're to believe that Trump would stop calling her a criminal because she would then be the president? If you believe that, then I have some things to sell you.
Below: This is another type of narcissistic insult. Will Trump react with rage, or will Kelly keep him from seeing it?
MMPI | Rorschach Test | TAT | Min-Cog Test | Millon | Hare Psychopathy Check List
Monday, Oct. 9, 2017
More psychopathology described in lay terms (highlighted in orange)
Bob Corker may be right about Donald Trump's White House, Michael D'Antonio - CNN today
Group Behind Online Petition Declaring Trump Mentally Ill Holding Physical Events This Weekend - Baltimore CBS local - with video
Tracking euphemisms for mentally ill used to describe Trump: “thin-skinned = reactive to narcissistic insults.
|Another review of the Duty to Warn Bandy book.|
Why would a Russian affiliated or controlled website run a review of a book saying Trump was mentally ill? by Hal Brown in Daily Kos
“He would have to concern anyone who cares about our nation.”
Sunday, Oct. 8, 2017
Trump’s Tweets again demonstrate how he is a malignant narcissist who reacts to an insult with rage. Kudos to Corker for his pithy response. It was, however, just a Tweet. Trump probably hasn’t heard the last from Sen. Corker, chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and it won’t merely be a cutting Tweet.
Corker calls White House ‘an adult day care center’ in response to Trump’s latest Twitter tirade - Washington Post.
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Saturday, Oct. 7, 2017
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The author left out the most famous psychologist in the Duty to Warn group, Robert Jay Lifton, but I forgive him. Excerpt:
Ridiculous Quote: President Donald Trump is “keeping the world from chaos,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Friday in a statement pushing back against Sen. Bob Corker's blunt assessment about the president's administration.
Friday, Oct. 6, 2017
On repealing the employer mandate for covering contraceptives for women:
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Excerpt: (Emphases added)
Even more of a coincidence:
The president’s ominous comments left many wondering if he was foreshadowing or just being a troll
While the United States has just experienced the worst mass killings in their history, is the American president, mocked and criticized for months, still credible? Never has an American leader been so much mocked and derided. Caricatures, sketches, caustic editorials ... In less than a year at the head of the country, Donald Trump became the laughingstock of the United States. The big popular television shows, the famous late night shows, record audiences every time they caricature the head of state. Making fun of the president, it sells! In Los Angeles, on the famous Walk of Fame in Hollywood Boulevard, the star of Donald Trump engraved on the sidewalk is the object of daily spitting, and has been vandalized about twenty times.
Voices are beginning to rise across the country to demand his dismissal: 60,000 health professionals have even signed a petition claiming that Donald Trump was not able to lead the country. In this context, is the verbal escalation between the US president and the North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un likely to lead to disaster? After making America laugh, will Donald Trump make the whole world cry?
A report by Virginie Vilar and Olivier Gardette
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Thursday, Oct. 5, 2017
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More Seriously Semantic analysis of Tillerson’s statement. As I noted below, he never called Trump a “moron” because he called him a fucking-moron (a different meaning). Colbert says it can true that he never considered resigning:
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the Michigan State campus.. These were truly disgusting - with a shared multistall bathroom, rarely if ever cleaned.
I took the photo a few years ago on my first cross country trip to Portland. MSU football
players keep apartments there to meet their girlfriends. The infamous Allen J. Weberman (aka AJ Weberman), who I knew fairly well, lived there. My friend,
Larry Mervis, two time Mister Michigan body builder lived there with several thousand pounds of weight lifting
equipment in a one room apartment. Larry and I had a day job painting the chimney grey some 45 years ago.
Weds. Oct. 4, 2017
From the Washington Post: This is so telling a proof of Trump’s malignant narcissism, and is too outrageous, for me to think of a comment.
"And as Tillerson has traveled the globe, Trump believes his top diplomat often seems more concerned with what the world thinks of the United States than with tending to the president’s personal image.”
NBC News stands by the reporting about what Tillerson said, about their confidence in the veracity of the reporting of the threat to resign, and to his to calling Trump a moron, or has been reported, a fuckin moron.
There is a major distinction between the definition of moron and fucking moron. Despite the obvious interpretation that sometimes a fucking moron is just more moronic than a minor moron, in usage the meanings sometimes differ.
You can call someone a moron in an endearing way. It’s all in the tone. However, add fucking and tone is everything. In fact you can eve use it on yourself: "I was such a fucking moron for leaving my car lights on.”
In situations where you’d say “you are a fucking moron” it is all in the tone of voice when you are kidding the person or excoriating them. HB
Trump and Las Vegas: With no Muslims to blame, Twitter troll falls silent by Heather “Digby” Parton
If a Muslim or black man had done this, he’d be braying for martial law. After Mandalay Bay it’s “warm condolences”
Okay, okay, enough already. For over a month I’ve been using different photos taken from my car window to separate each days posts. They are all starting to look the same. I have this many left (below); but will start to use random photos until I think of a theme, unless my theme is “random photos” from the 20,000 I’ve taken.
Monday, Oct. 2, 2017
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Department of Goddamnit Just Stop It!POLITICS HuffPost
The pattern of praising Trump for reading from a teleprompter continues.
One of my first two websites (the the days when you had to use html to put a website online) was Police Stressline. My interest in the field of police stress developed out of my experience as an auxiliary police officer for 20 years. Many of those articles were reported on other websites, generally without my permission. Here’s one relevant to this incident: The Effects of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder on the Officer and the Family.
Sunday, Oct. 1, 2017
Evening edition: Trump gets the final quote of the day
“And we’re going to dedicate this (golf) trophy to all of those people that went through so much that we love, a part of our great state, really a part of our great nation,” he added, before pivoting to talking about golf. “And I’ll tell you what ― I’ve been watching this thing from the beginning. And I have to say, our Team USA, wow, did you play well.”
A person at the ceremony yelled, “You don’t give a shit about Puerto Rico!” according to reporters at the event.
- Richard A Friedman is a Professor of Clinical Psychiatry and Director of Psychopharmacology Clinic Weill Cornell Medical College.
- Psychopharmacologists generally focus their practice on assessing patients for medication and not on providing psychotherapy. Despite this I think he should understand the generally accepted difference between empathy and sympathy. Empathy is considered by mental health professionals and most people who write about human feelings to be a deep feeling that is rarely, if ever, used to manipulate people to one’s own ends. It may be illustrative of what Friedman means to say is that there are two kinds of empathy: This is from a 2013 article by psychologist Jamil Zaki:
- But empathy is not always used in the service of good. Two papers last month highlight this idea through evidence that people use empathy to use other people, manipulating them through a savvy understanding of emotions.In the first paper, by Sara Konrath and her colleagues gave participants a standard measure of emotion understanding: people’s ability to suss out others’ emotions based on eye gaze (you can try this test here). Konrath further measured people’s levels of narcissism, and in particular “narcissistic exploitativeness,” a mouthful of a term that capture’s peoples tendency to manipulate and use others. Interestingly, this study suggests that narcissists might not inflate their facility with other people: exploitativeness tracked people’s emotion reading skills.
The second paper, by Yuki Nozaki and Masuo Koyasu used a more complex design. These researchers measured individuals’ emotional intelligence, and then had them play two games. In the first, participants played virtual catch with three other players. Two of the players snubbed the participant and another player. In the second game, participants gave the other snubbed player advice on whether to give up money to punish one of the unfair ball hogs from the first game. Emotionally intelligent participants who wanted revenge encouraged the other person to exact it for them, in essence getting the other player to do their (costly) dirty work.
These studies highlight at least two things. First, the “pieces” that make up empathy don’t always go together. In many cases, understanding someone’s emotions (so-called “cognitive empathy”) and sharing those emotions (so-called “emotional empathy”) can split apart. Further, understanding without sharing is a dangerous pattern, which likely underlies intimidation, used car sales tactics, and all sorts of other manipulation. Of course in many—and perhaps most—cases, we use our understanding of others to help them. This highlights the second point these papers make. Empathic ability is value neutral, sometimes helping and other times hurting people. As are so many features of our minds.
- First, the “pieces” that make up empathy don’t always go together. In many cases, understanding someone’s emotions (so-called “cognitive empathy”) and sharing those emotions (so-called “emotional empathy”) can split apart. Further, understanding without sharing is a dangerous pattern, which likely underlies intimidation, used car sales tactics, and all sorts of other manipulation. Of course in many—and perhaps most—cases, we use our understanding of others to help them. This highlights the second point these papers make. Empathic ability is value neutral, sometimes helping and other times hurting people. As are so many features of our minds.
- Here’s what Friedman says:
Actually, Trump is a master of empathy. Most people confuse empathy with sympathy and don’t understand the nature – or power – of empathy. There is nothing necessarily nice about empathy, which is essentially the ability to imagine and intuit how other people think and feel.
It has nothing to do with genuinely identifying with others or actually feeling their pain; that would be sympathy. Instead, empathy is really about having an accurate theory of mind of other people – and getting under their skin.
Trump has lots of empathy. What he doesn’t have is sympathy – he doesn’t really feel badly for other people. He is not using his considerable empathy skills for Puerto Rico for a simple reason: they are not his base and he has little interest in them.
The same is true of successful demagogues and psychopaths who have an uncanny ability to read the mind of their victims in order to manipulate and control them. Thus, depending on the moral compass of a leader, empathy could be a very positive or very destructive force.
Trump made a strong empathic connection with his supporters by acknowledging their pain and economic hardship and by promising to Make America (and by extension, them) Great Again. How? It hardly mattered once he made people feel he understood and liked them, something far more effective than policy details.
But there is an extra twist to what Trump has done when it comes to empathy that helps us understand not only his success, but the puzzling and enduring loyalty of his core supporters, many of whom are unemployed, angry and stressed.
Yet another demonstration of Trump’s dangerous malady - which it should be unnecessary to say includes the hallmark feature of the inability to empathize.
Excerpt from Chris Cilizza: